Former PM Kim Campbell was the featured guest at a tree-planting ceremony to mark the 200th birthday of Sir John A. Macdonald, at Arthur Milnes' house, in Kingston./caption
Chretien on Macdonald, Kingston Whig - Standard; 11 Jan 2003: 1 / FRONT.
He was a 'masterful' PM: On the occasion of the first official Sir John A. Macdonald Day, the prime minister speaks to The Whig's Arthur Milnes about the man who shares his birthday and how to best honour him
Kingstonians are right to be proud of and continue to trumpet their connection to Canada's first prime minister, Sir John A. Macdonald, says the man who now holds Canada's top political job.
"The Member for Kingston is now rightly known as the father of Canada," Prime Minister Jean Chretien told The Whig-Standard in an exclusive telephone interview this week from 24 Sussex Drive in Ottawa.
"I just want to say to the people who will be celebrating Sir John A. Macdonald that ... it's good that they celebrate a very colourful and masterful politician like him," Chretien said. "He gave his life to politics and he had a good life. He had fun, too, in doing it ... the Canadian way. So don't take yourself too seriously."
Jan. 11 is now officially Sir John A. Macdonald Day across Canada thanks to a private member's bill passed by the Commons and Senate and granted royal assent last year.
Chretien, Canada's 20th prime minister, has more than a passing interest in Macdonald.
In a unique historical twist, Chretien, a lifelong Liberal, was born on the same day as Macdonald.
When pundits and opponents began to suggest last year that Chretien was getting too old for the job of prime minister and had worn out his welcome after three consecutive majority victories, few mentioned that Macdonald was 76 when he won his sixth majority victory in 1891.
Chretien, born in 1934, turns 69 today.
He discovered early on that he shared his birthday with Sir John A.
"You know, it was a happy coincidence in a way but at that time it did not create any special impression ... But it is a happy coincidence now I have become prime minister too," Chretien said. "Now that I am the prime minister ... and I know that my birthday is the same day as the first prime minister, it's kind of pleasant and amusing."
Chretien said Canadians will always owe Macdonald a fundamental debt. He was asked to describe what he considers Macdonald's greatest single accomplishment.
"To unite Canada, the different colonies of British North America into what has become a great nation and doing it in partnership with Quebec's George-Etienne Cartier, even if they were not my political party - my family were Laurier Liberals - but the forming of Canada was a success," he replied.
The prime minister said our American neighbours and French allies have done a much grander job of honouring their past leaders than Canadians.
He pointed to the vast network of American presidential libraries - every former president from Franklin D. Roosevelt to George H.W. Bush have massive library-museums in place - and said the French allow their retiring leaders to create a museum in a subject area of personal interest.
France's current president, Jacques Chirac, has a great interest in Aboriginal artwork and has spoken to Chretien about his future museum.
"His people are in touch with Canada because he has a very specific interest in Aboriginal art and he's building a museum on that," Chretien said.
This is in contrast to how Canadians treat their former prime ministers, Chretien said.
"We tend to be very modest in Canada compared to the Americans," he said. "We're a bit like the British I guess, who don't do that much either ... But in the United Kingdom, you know, they really boost Churchill quite a lot but the others come and go, like in Canada ... Oh, we always read in British history about Gladstone, some are better known than the others but they don't seem to devote as much memory of theirs as in the United States, for example, or France."
Chretien admitted that it's awkward for him, as the current prime minister, to raise the issue of official neglect of Canadian leaders. Still, he argued, the practice is well-entrenched.
"So it'd be difficult for the sitting prime minister to talk about it because critics will think that I want people to remember me," Chretien said. "It's not my preoccupation."
Still, he said, he is bothered by the treatment afforded former prime ministers. There is no single museum Canadians can visit to learn about all their former leaders, collectively, Chretien pointed out.
"If you visit the national capital, there's absolutely nothing about the former prime ministers," he said. "You can go to Laurier House, that is an historic site but you have there a little bit of Laurier, a little bit of King and a little bit of Pearson ... There's a discussion going on at this time to make a museum of history in Ottawa where we think Canadians would be able to celebrate the lives of all former prime ministers."
Mackenzie King's country residence, Kingsmere, located in the Gatineaus outside Ottawa, is also a national historic site, like Laurier House, and is open to the public.
The farmhouse at Kingsmere, where King died, is the official residence of the Speaker of the House of Commons, Kingston and the Islands MP Peter Milliken. It's not open to the public.
Earnscliffe, Sir John A.'s Ottawa home and the place he died on June 6, 1891, also is off limits to Canadians. It has been the residence of the British High Commissioner to Canada since the 1930s.
Chretien, who pointed out that Bellevue House, one of Macdonald's Kingston residences is a national historic site, said his government has taken small steps in honouring past Canadian prime ministers.
"We have done something lately," he said. "For example, in the case of Alexander Mackenzie, the second prime minister, his grave's monument was destroyed by vandals and nobody took care of it. So the Member of Parliament from that area Sarnia's Roger Gallaway told me about the grave's poor condition and said, 'We have to do something.' "
Chretien said his government acted to ensure that from now on the final resting places of all deceased prime ministers are treated with proper respect.
"And now, every cemetery where there rests one of the prime ministers, we have a flag there and an inscription," Chretien said.
Macdonald's grave, at Kingston's Cataraqui Cemetery, was refurbished and a historical plaque highlighting Macdonald's accomplishments and a Canadian flag were installed in 1999 as part of Ottawa's new policy for honouring deceased prime ministers.
The Kingston Historical Society hosts an annual graveside memorial for Macdonald each June 6, on the anniversary of his death. The last prime minister to personally visit the site and give an address was Brian Mulroney in 1991, the 100th anniversary of Macdonald's death.
King visited the grave privately during a Kingston stop during an election campaign in the 1920s and told his famous diary that he hoped his own grave would look much like what he found at Cataraqui.
Arthur Meighen, who was prime minister twice at different periods in the 1920s, also visited the site in 1941 on the 50th anniversary of Macdonald's death.
John Diefenbaker, who later became prime minister, also participated in that year's Macdonald ceremonies in Kingston.
Both Diefenbaker and his rival, Lester B. Pearson, took part in Macdonald celebrations in Kingston during the turbulent 1960s.
The prime minister said he and his family will be marking his own birthday today quietly. Chretien said it still hasn't been decided if he and Aline Chretien will stay at home at 24 Sussex Drive - with the PM himself doing the cooking - or whether they'll go out to an Ottawa-area restaurant.
"It will be private," he said, "very quiet ... and, I will have a quiet dinner and I'll go skiing ... And on the weekend, we have no staff, so it's going to be very quiet."
His government, however, is asking Canadians to take time out today to honour Macdonald.
"The Right Honourable Sir John A. Macdonald was the first prime minister of Canada and one of the founders of Confederation," Canadian Heritage Minister Sheila Copps said, in a written statement released this week. "As such, he played an important role in Canadian history. Sir John A. Macdonald Day gives us an opportunity to recognized his contribution to building our country."
Chretien's personal political hero, Laurier, also now has a day of honour entrenched on the Canadian calendar. Sir Wilfrid Laurier Day will be marked every Nov. 20.
Laurier was born on that date in 1841.
Chretien has been interested in Canadian political history since his youth. He has served in Parliament with prime ministers Pearson, Diefenbaker, Trudeau, Clark, Turner, Mulroney and Campbell.
More than 50 years ago, a young Chretien met his first prime minister.
"I was 15 when Louis St. Laurent came during the campaign of '49 in my riding," Chretien recalled. "I made sure that I shook hands with him because at that time, my dad used to tell me that he had shaken hands with Laurier ... I made sure I was next to the car and when St. Laurent came to get in his car he saw me waiting for him. He shook hands with me."
Chretien said he couldn't wait to get home that night and tell his father, Wellie Chretien, about his own encounter with a prime minister.
"And I came home and I said, 'Dad, you shook hands with Laurier, I shook hands with St. Laurent."
Arthur Milnes is an accomplished public historian and award-winning journalist. He was research assistant on The Rt. Hon. Brian Mulroney’s best-selling Memoirs and also served as a speechwriter to then-Prime Minister Stephen Harper and as a Fellow of the Queen’s Centre for the Study of Democracy under the leadership of Tom Axworthy. A resident of Kingston, Ontario, Milnes serves as the in-house historian at the 175 year-old Frontenac Club Hotel. Arthur Milnes is an accomplished public historian and award-winning journalist. He was research assistant on The Rt. Hon. Brian Mulroney’s best-selling Memoirs and also served as a speechwriter to then-Prime Minister Stephen Harper and as a Fellow of the Queen’s Centre for the Study of Democracy under the leadership of Tom Axworthy. A resident of Kingston, Ontario, Milnes serves as the in-house historian at the 175 year-old Frontenac Club Hotel.