B.C. party leaders' debate makes for grim listening in close election campaign

  • Canadian Press

B.C. Conservative Leader John Rustad, left, and B.C. NDP Leader David Eby, centre, shake hands as B.C. Green Party Leader Sonia Furstenau, right, watches while posing for photographs before the televised leaders' debate, in Vancouver, on Tuesday, October 8, 2024. THE CANADIAN PRESS/Darryl Dyck

VANCOUVER -- The leaders of British Columbia's three major political parties have presented starkly different visions of the province and its future in the only televised debate of their closely fought election campaign.

The discussion involving NDP Leader David Eby, B.C. Conservative Leader John Rustad and Green Party Leader Sonia Furstenau, hosted by Angus Reid president Shachi Kurl, made for sometimes grim listening.

Rustad told of seeing a man dead on the streets of Vancouver -- of an overdose, he said -- on his way to the debate venue at the CBC's studio on Tuesday.

"I was on my way over here, and on the corner of Robson and Hornby, there was an individual who died ... This is the British Columbia that David Eby has created," Rustad said.

He later related an anecdote about a woman "covered in blood" after miscarrying in a hospital washroom as he attacked the state of health care in B.C.

He also described young people leaving the province and what he depicted as a lack of opportunity in B.C., prompting exasperation from Furstenau -- who also delivered an early zinger against both her rivals by describing them as "more of the same or back to the past."

"I feel like I live in a different place from John Rustad -- his vision of B.C. is one that is dark and gloomy," Furstenau said. "We need a vision of hope. If we want young people to stay here, we have to give them a reason to stay."

All three leaders had spent the day preparing for what could prove a pivotal moment for the campaign, with the B.C. Conservatives and the NDP locked in what polls suggest will be a narrow race, with less than two weeks to go before election day on Oct. 19.

For his part, Eby remained squarely focused on Rustad and his stances on various social issues, describing him as an "anti-vaxxer" who was "embarrassing" the province.

"When we were all rolling up our sleeves to get vaccines, to protect vulnerable seniors from COVID-19 ... John Rustad and his candidates were providing donations to people who are protesting outside of hospitals, anti-vax convoy members. He's still an anti-vaxxer."

Rustad has previously said he regretted getting vaccinated against COVID-19, but told the debate that he was "not anti-vax, I'm anti-mandate."

Eby and Furstenau both trained attacks on Rustad, and Eby pointedly avoided attacking Furstenau, who said that the "least polarized" time in B.C. had been when the Greens supported the NDP from 2017 to 2020 in the minority government of former premier John Horgan.

When Eby pointed to Rustad's "uncosted" economic platform, which he said was written in "pixie dust," he compared it unfavourably to Furstenau's costed policies. In closing remarks, Eby said "Sonia's right" to think of B.C.'s biggest assets being British Columbians.

The Green Leader did not offer Eby the same consideration, criticizing Eby and Rustad for being aligned on health care and subsidizing the fossil fuel industry.

The debate had started with all three leaders on the defensive -- not against each other but the moderator.

The 90-minute debate featured no opening statements, instead beginning with individual questions from Kurl.

She pointed to the province's shift from surplus to deficit under Eby's government, asking him when things would improve.

Eby responded by saying families were under pressure and "people need support now."

Asked how he could convince people he wasn't "too extreme," Rustad said a "lot of things" had been said about him but he was "laser focused" on the needs of people in the province.

Furstenau meanwhile responded to a question about why people would vote for a party with only two people in the legislature, by delivering her "more of the same or back to the past" line about both Eby and Rustad

The debate was broadcast on all major TV networks.

Supporters outside the studio had cheered on the leaders as they made their way inside.

Eby arrived on the party's election bus with wife Cailey Lynch and about two dozen supporters, Rustad was greeted by a largely youthful crowd waving blue party placards and Furstenau arrived with a handful of supporters.

At times, the NDP and B.C. Conservative supporters appeared to be in a friendly contest to out-cheer each other.

Rustad earlier Tuesday released his party's proposals for dealing with the toxic drug crisis in the province, which include cutting wait times for voluntary treatment and creating a virtual program to connect people with addiction specialists.

He also said his party wanted to redevelop and repurpose the Riverview Hospital in the Vancouver suburb of Coquitlam, a provincially-owned psychiatric institution that closed in 2012.

This report by The Canadian Press was first published Oct. 8, 2024